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Wanted Passenger Seat rail
« am: 20.Juni 2014 02:22:49 »
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Has any member a spare passenger seat rail frame they can sell me?

Hat jedes Mitglied eine freie Personenverkehr Bahn Sitzrahmen kann sie mir verkaufen?
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Re:Wanted Passenger Seat rail
« am: 20.Juni 2014 21:29:29 »
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Which translator did you use? The German text is absolutely crap! But it is funny crap  grin
I add an understandable translation.
Your designation "seat rail frame" seems to indicate that your passenger seat is adjustable.
In my C303 the passenger seat is fixed.

Da die deutsche Übersetzung doch etwas schwer verständlich ist, hier für alle, die im Englischen nicht so zu Hause sind, etwas lesbares:
Hat irgendein Mitglied einen Sitzschienenrahmen für die Beifahrerseite übrig, den er mir verkaufen könnte?

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Re:Wanted Passenger Seat rail
« am: 21.Juni 2014 00:27:57 »
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I used Google Chrome translator built into Browser. You should see the German translation to English.  grin Especially Kay's posting it it makes me confused  huh    huh
The Passenger Rail I need is the fixed one that has a bolt on the rail so that the rail can be slid back and rebolted into position.

This is not the easiest however due to fact the bolt is on the inside rail close to Engine compartment.
Thanks for your Correct Translation.  cheesy
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Re:Wanted Passenger Seat rail
« am: 21.Juni 2014 05:0:11 »
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Zitat von: johnnyk am 21.Juni 2014 00:27:57
I used Google Chrome translator built into Browser. You should see the German translation to English.  grin Especially Kay's posting it it makes me confused  huh    huh
The Passenger Rail I need is the fixed one that has a bolt on the rail so that the rail can be slid back and rebolted into position.

This is not the easiest however due to fact the bolt is on the inside rail close to Engine compartment.
Thanks for your Correct Translation.  cheesy


Hmm....I would have to check the parts manuals, as I wasn't even aware there was a (military) non-adjustable version (meaning one not adjustable on the fly; a bolt-adjustable version seems even more strange actually (as in: if you *have* those darn rails, why not add the adjustment-lever....it's not as if that part is some sensitive rocket-sciency).
(although the adjustable one does tend to get stuck over time, after collecting dirt, dust and sometimes tension/disalignment after rebolting it to the floor (I guess a few washers inbetween could help to straighten/level things out))

Civil C3-series definitely have adjustable rails.
Driver's seat (only left side I guess, since it's engine-hull-related) can even be improved, further backwards, beyond the factory limits:

Hammer down the metal clamp on the rear, that acts as a secondary limiter, and drill a new sprocket hole on the front rail, about 2,5cm away from the last one....voila, instantly more legroom.

Even done that trick once after taking delivery of a Volvo in Sweden....asked the fire-chief whether he had a drill at hand, so I could prepare the vehicle for the long way home....after a dazzling look, he was rather impressed with this instant vehicle modification, still at his doorstep....:))


Btw, is your Volvo LHD or RHD?
Just to keep any confusion between drivers-side and passenger-side at a minimum....;))
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Re:Wanted Passenger Seat rail
« am: 21.Juni 2014 07:34:47 »
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Thanks WJM, My  TGB13 is the military LHD version. You obviously have experience in modification of the seat rails and yes it is rather cramped unless you can move the seats further back---you can't have everything.  grin  On the subject of seat position comfort -do you find the angle of your foot is in an acute angle-- difficult position to operate the throttle?  embarassed  I found I had to use a block of wood under the rubber mat to rest my heel on as the normal position gave me cramps after a short while driving.

  The drivers side is Ok for me as I am 6ft tall, but the passenger is my 6ft 3" son. The original rail I need will be set at it furthest rear position and locked there so I don't need the adjustable one but if one is available I can modify. I retro-fitted bucket seats and modified the original rails to mount them, but the extra height of bucket seat on passenger side is the issue. I want go back to original passenger side as this will reduce the height and not foul on the Donaldson Truck air filter housing I have behind the passenger seat.  wink  I am sure that there must be some rails available on spare cabins that have been removed.  smiley
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Re:Wanted Passenger Seat rail
« am: 21.Juni 2014 21:22:52 »
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Zitat von: johnnyk am 21.Juni 2014 07:34:47
..... On the subject of seat position comfort -do you find the angle of your foot is in an acute angle-- difficult position to operate the throttle?  embarassed  I found I had to use a block of wood under the rubber mat to rest my heel on as the normal position gave me cramps after a short while driving .....


I wonder if there are different versions of throttle positioning or if every driver experiences this in a different way. I have a neighbor who drove the C303 in the Swedish military and he said exactly the same as you do.
But when I drove my TGB11 600km back home after I bought it I didn't experience any problem at all. And this was the first time I was driving it apart from a test drive.
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Re:Wanted Passenger Seat rail
« am: 22.Juni 2014 01:53:18 »
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Zitat von: johnnyk am 21.Juni 2014 07:34:47
Thanks WJM, My  TGB13 is the military LHD version. You obviously have experience in modification of the seat rails and yes it is rather cramped unless you can move the seats further back---you can't have everything.  grin  On the subject of seat position comfort -do you find the angle of your foot is in an acute angle-- difficult position to operate the throttle?  embarassed  I found I had to use a block of wood under the rubber mat to rest my heel on as the normal position gave me cramps after a short while driving.

I know several others question the ergonomics of it, but I never had any problem with it, from day one, and driving more than one fresh Volvo for 1500km in a single trip home from Sweden (and back for service/modifications), plus 15k in a trip to Shanghai.

However, what *is* rather important in terms of ergonomics, is having maximal flexible shoes....I even switched between driving shoes and walking shoes on my Shanghai trip....best type of driving shoes I found, rather by coincident, are water-shoes, with both a very flexible and very soft & sticky type of rubber (far less slipping your feet/soles off any pedal when things becomes a bit wet/muddy).
(those shoes also being very open in structure, they ventilate nicely too, good in extreme heat & humidity....:))
(sandals are only okay when they have toe-protection, otherwise there will be some nasty conflict between pedal & toe/nail at some point in time....;))

What still could be tempting, is modifying the wheel well in that particular spot, by cutting out the size of your heel, and 'squaring' it down, so that you have about 5cm more room to the rear of your heel.
The wheel itself certainly doesn't need the clearance in that very right corner spot, so there is little too lose/sacrificy, other than some sheetmetal work.



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  The drivers side is Ok for me as I am 6ft tall, but the passenger is my 6ft 3" son. The original rail I need will be set at it furthest rear position and locked there so I don't need the adjustable one but if one is available I can modify. I retro-fitted bucket seats and modified the original rails to mount them, but the extra height of bucket seat on passenger side is the issue. I want go back to original passenger side as this will reduce the height and not foul on the Donaldson Truck air filter housing I have behind the passenger seat.  wink  I am sure that there must be some rails available on spare cabins that have been removed.  smiley


The back of the passenger seat could definitely go back further, just as far as the drivers side (after modifying the adjustable rail/slots; not sure whether military fixed-rails have a similar factory limit or not?).
What is limiting the passenger side is the asymmetric shape of the engine tunnel, conflicting with the seat in the far rear left corner....which also means that *if* you could modify the rail and/or lower/rear/left side of the seat, you might be able to gain the necessary 5-10cm, for an absolute max rearward position (the upper back itself becomes the limit at some point, especially in combination with head rests (although one can argue that those are supposed to stand more forward than the back itself, just you can tilt the headrest forward on most high-end adjustable headrests)).

But I guess only a rather talented custom-seat-upholstery shop could do such a job, without sacrificing the internal metal structure, in combination with the supports/feet/rails.

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Re:Wanted Passenger Seat rail
« am: 22.Juni 2014 02:22:4 »
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" What still could be tempting, is modifying the wheel well in that particular spot, by cutting out the size of your heel, and 'squaring' it down, so that you have about 5cm more room to the rear of your heel.

Good suggestion WJM. I had seen this done some time ago.I am not sure if it was posted on this forum or a partial cabin rebuild from Finland that was pre ALUZINC.  smiley 

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